How to use this stuff. The Windows version is discussed *waaaay* at the bottom. Grab sm_New_English_-__lojban.PDB. Load it up. Everything else in here is the scripts I used to generate this stuff. And data files and such. Stuff from IRC: Sorting: -------- *rlpowell* One more thing. *bancus* hm? *rlpowell* In the words list. *rlpowell* At the top are field names. *bancus* yes *rlpowell* You'll probably want to have those be English and lojban. *rlpowell* But, and this is really important, *bancus* ah, okay *rlpowell* You don't want to sort on those for learning. *rlpowell* You want to sort on Num. *rlpowell* Select the Num field, and hit the little *. *rlpowell* It'll sort on that. *bancus* ah *rlpowell* After about 10 minutes, anyways. 8) *bancus* okay *rlpowell* It may already be in that order, actually. *bancus* hehe, yeah *rlpowell* Num is ascending order of frequency of usage Basic Usage ----------- #lojban> So, all the words have a little circle beside them, yes? #lojban> Rather than the page? yeah #lojban> In mine it's a dark circle, but whatever. #lojban> (this is word view, not database view). it is a dark circle heh #lojban> Scroll up to the top of the words. k #lojban> first should be 'le'. #lojban> Click on it. yeah #lojban> Hit 'commit'. k #lojban> Scroll to the next word (phone or memo buttons or button on screen). #lojban> Hit commit. #lojban> Keep doing this until you've committed twice as many as you are willing to be tested on the next day. k #lojban> Your grasp is such that you can probably start with the first 50 or so. #lojban> Then they will be in the drill. #lojban> Drill them down. #lojban> Tomorrow, half of them will show up in the test. #lojban> Those you don't do well enough on will go back to drill. #lojban> And then you can add more and drill those, and so on. #lojban> As I said, I add 10 even MWF. Which is pretty harsh for how busy I am, actually. Templates: ---------- *rlpowell* First, are we doing english->lojban or lojban->english? *bancus* WHich should I do? *rlpowell* Pick one. 8) *rlpowell* I do both, see. *bancus* heh *rlpowell* Two different databases, renamed. *bancus* Ah. *bancus* I see. *bancus* E->L then *rlpowell* Because otherwise one or the other falls behind. *rlpowell* The question was more 'which are we doing first'? 8) *rlpowell* 'k. Go into the database. Click on a word. Click anywhere. *rlpowell* Click Template. *bancus* Well, the 'First' was set aside by a comma, I thought it was "Before we do anything else, I want to know..." *bancus* okay *bancus* I've clicked template *rlpowell* Yeah, I didn't ask right. *rlpowell* OK, in the upper right, make sure Q is selected, and that the number in the far upper right is 1. *bancus* yep *rlpowell* Below that are 3 paragraph styles; pick center. *bancus* k *rlpowell* Beside that are 7 style selections. *rlpowell* Highlight the outermost 4, two on each side. *rlpowell* i.e. B L t w *bancus* k *rlpowell* I'm sorry, exit the template for a sec. *rlpowell* Get back to the screen where you *could* hit template. *bancus* mkay *rlpowell* Click on 'field1'. Name it 'lojban'. *rlpowell* Next one is 'Cat' (as in category'. *bancus* won't that get rid of the name? *rlpowell* Next is 'English'. *bancus* or will it save the card it's based from? *rlpowell* Nonono. *rlpowell* Click on 'field1' itself. *rlpowell* Not the text value in the field. *bancus* OH *bancus* heh *rlpowell* lojban, Cat, English, Desc, Num. *rlpowell* leave field6 as is. *rlpowell* Then go back into the template. *bancus* okay *rlpowell* Kay. *rlpowell* In the center is a text field with something in {}. I hope. 8) *rlpowell* Around that are a bunch of number selectors. Set them all to zero. *bancus* a field in braces? *rlpowell* Highlight all the text in the center. *bancus* I see just a frield *rlpowell* Yep. *bancus* nothign in it *rlpowell* It's blank? That's fine. *rlpowell* Put the cursor in it. *bancus* k *bancus* k *rlpowell* Select 'English' from the field dropdown in the middle on the left. *bancus* k *rlpowell* You should see '{English}' in the text box. *bancus* yep *rlpowell* In the far upper right, hit the up arrow once (i.e. change that number from 1 to 2). *rlpowell* Centered, B & L. *bancus* yep *rlpowell* The number above the text field should be 10. *bancus* alright like that *bancus* and it has {lojban} in the field *rlpowell* Set the text field to {Desc}. *bancus* k *rlpowell* #3 *rlpowell* Centered, no specials (no B, no L, no nothing). *rlpowell* All numbers 0, field is '{Num}'. *bancus* okay *rlpowell* #4-#10 should have empty text fields. *rlpowell* Doesn't matter what they have. *rlpowell* (other than that their text fields are empty). *bancus* yep *rlpowell* Then go back to #1 and switch to A (from Q). *rlpowell* I assume this is all making sense, more or less? *bancus* alright *bancus* yeah *rlpowell* It's not a terribly complicated system. *bancus* just looks like it *rlpowell* OK, centered, B L t w. *rlpowell* field is '{lojban}', all numbers 0. *bancus* k *rlpowell* #2: centered, B L, 10 above, '{Cat}'. *bancus* k *rlpowell* #3: centered, nothing, zeroes, '{Num}'. *rlpowell* #4-#10: empty *rlpowell* Hit Done. *rlpowell* Look at the two sides of the card. *bancus* okay *rlpowell* Then copy the databse, rename as necessary. lojban -> english is exactly the same except that you switch what goes is Q vs. A. *rlpowell* Alter to taste, of course. 8) *bancus* okay thanks ;D *bancus* how do yoy copy the database tho? *rlpowell* Click the symbol to the left of the database name. *rlpowell* Hit 'action'. *rlpowell* Bunch o stuff in there. *rlpowell* There's stuff in the symbol to the left of the card name in the card view, as well. *rlpowell* And, btw, the help is pretty good. *bancus* ah, okay *bancus* thanks *rlpowell* Oh! *bancus* ki'esai.uisai - ---------------------------------------- Windows version: Text stolen from Adam Lopresto: Robin Powell has been preaching a program called SuperMemo for some time, particularly for the Palm. Turns out there's also a free (though old) version available for Windows. You can get it from ftp://ftp.iif.hu/pub/simtelnet/win3/edu/suprmem7.zip (and apparently other shareware sites, most of which are now out of date). After downloading it, get the data file http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/flashcards/big_list_supermemo_win.txt and save it to your hard drive as "memo.txt" (because the old version doesn't like long file names). Then run SuperMemo, create a new database, choose Options -> Go Professional and then Tools -> Import Text and tell it to import memo.txt. From there on you should be good to go, aside from the obscure and sometimes bizarre user interface .o'ocu'i - --- More stuff from me: It's a *very* old program. It can't handle long file names, or file names with spaces. Try putting everything in c:\sm7, and make sure the txt file has a short name (like 'list.txt'). Create a new database, make sure it's open, then select import text. I just did this, and it does work. If it gives you the option of importing as Q&A text, rather than just text, that's the one you want.